Q$~,EPBi_Ye_Q#kt2:RF&r!xei_=YhRqB43I6;=AmQ|:/Ur=s6{k_fr5se#\C`'`!0!leV> The form will let you do this but the policy will not. Must a Soldier be counseled before separ Must a Soldier be counseled before separation? It states that once you arrive to your new unit, you would traditionally get an extended annual to take in account for your transition leave. There are two problems here. I am currently getting revaluated with the VA and I am half way through the evaluation and I have a 90% rating I have like 10-15 more appointments with them. Also, for profiles the rater is supposed to comment on whether or not the profile hinders the Rated Soldiers ability to do his/her job. ;q These ratings are allowed but the reviewers must nonconcur with one or both of the rating officials and write his/her own assessment in a memorandum that gets attached to the evaluation. This occurs when the rater marks in VII.a. Complete the Record: requested from the Department of the Army. I have been trying to get a med board for a while. months; nonrated codes are found in DA Pam 6233. We all know which of our coworkers . }87>F!V>N5ckrtNNLBtm&m]fTL9)53)5 c3k7IFt"bir#?tj^1 LB#Y'o+FJW_LD|$w1*uk;blngb trSq i'rp~}@v%hp0lt;7k@q,qy(r?3(8i%>VPIw;}/B(?Kjz7l?iG\JVvf('- j) 0000001714 00000 n Using the Wizard application associated with the . I have an annual NCOER due this month and if I get non rated time because I am going through a med board does it move my retirement date? Bullets spaced with more than a single spaces between them. (4) Extended evaluations reports that include any nonrated time periods since the THRU date of the previous, OER or NCOER and prior to the establishment of a new rating relationship between the rated Soldier and the rater, require the preparation of a code 10, Extended Annual OER or NCOER (see para 342, months will not exceed 12 (365 rated days) even though the period covered exceeds 1 calendar year. signatures (legally by regulation) but probably more than need to. Gents, on my current ncoer I will have two months of nonrated time due to transit and nonqualified rater (new transfer to the unit rear det, then caught up with the forward element down range). Missing counseling dates without an explanation by the senior rater. The intent of this type of report is to give a rated Soldier an evaluation similar to an Annual containing 12 rated months after. Missing counseling dates without an explanation by the senior rater. The rating period begins the day the, Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the, Soldier assumes their new duty position). The THRU date will be 12 rated months (365 rated days) after the. Seven Types of NCOERs Initial: prepared for a NCO with 3 rated months after promotion to SGT/E-5. I just cant physically do anything. There are 8 Codes and reasons for an NCOER submission, can you name at least 4? Bullet comments incorrectly formatted. 365 0 obj <> endobj )*I9r#78 s&;va*fLU8o;q@"8|p@0V_UgrL]dog-)s1*w o5DsNYf~BMJBM25uojHV$;PSwj"|k/swPFi leave, lack of rater qualification, TDY, permissive TDY, and in transit travel). Change of Rater: prepared when the soldier has a change of rater, provided there are at least 3 rated months involved. See Also OER Mistakes >Army Counseling Guide. The Complete the Record term is one for evaluations just prior to selection boards. ~ Page 48, table 3-6/7, Codes and Reasons for submission/Reason Codes for non-rated time %PDF-1.4 % Counseling Dates When counseling dates are omitted, the senior rater will enter a statement in section Ve, explaining why counseling was not accomplished example counseling dates were not documented ; DA Pam. Can they do this? Special Reports: m. no of enclosures n. rated nco's email address (.gov or .mil) from (yyyymmdd) thru (yyyymmdd) part ii - authentication . A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. Hj0~ h[k07Jm($[%k>hHl?cKRCH:#QRFLiyvMr97K[ztjv7\/5d0HAgU'HmD00ZgfOsq(@Zz{9hR~7U5Wn9.%.5],B8ai,Z.+q}O78wp)nl(>BmQaK3V8^JWN12T~:%0u`{ {[nq",G]0]D '= ;IPjHmR{?. `cOTI6-TR{$ CI%H `0pAc:>;Iriz(`: F{b 3vu@ ` { arrival in a new unit or position under a rater, unless another type of mandatory or optional evaluation is warranted (for example, Change of Rater, Change of Duty, Complete the Record, or SROption). Additional information on nonrated time is found in paragraphs 333 and G4. A: The rated NCO's signature on the NCO-ER indicates that he reviewed and verified the administrative data on the NCO-ER, to include all information in Part I of the report, the counseling dates, the height/weight/APFT data, and certify that all of that information is correct/accurate. 5) 60 Day Opt. What action is taken when a Soldier marks disagree and provides a rebuttal statement? A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. I was trying to get out at 16.5 and 17 and at the transfer and after the transfer. I need out. AskTOP is hosted by CSM Mark Gerecht (US Army Retired) and features guest articles authored by a number of qualified Subject Matter Experts. everyone involved now is very positive and they are moving it forward I just need to know about the Non rated time and how it relates to retirement. endstream endobj 522 0 obj <>stream I just cant physically do anything. No bullets on front side, not all sections with at least one bullet. Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. endstream endobj 524 0 obj <>stream OJ QJ ^J hq1V h8 Here are nine reasons the Army needs to go back to the drawing board with NCO evals: 1. 0 zd{l9j(Y*!MJX[geCP,$Bt'Uj k5v rF/T^}(sBG\}qxOd_4ZBtA It appears that units are using this when Soldiers REFRAD or ETS. i. reason for submission : j. period covered k. rated months . We. This ensures that any evaluation (i.e.  T i m e s N e w R o m a n 1 . I can train. l 4 a ( k ( N o L i s t B ^@ B [ N o r m a l ( W e b ) d d [$\$ O [ b o d y PK ! N o r m a l CJ _HaJ mH sH tH D A` D D e f a u l t P a r a g r a p h F o n t R i R T a b l e N o r m a l 4 Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). information on timeliness of OER and NCOER submissions and ties it to . Correct, but you only receive a nonrated code for leave if it is 30 or more days. <<79B0718CA575E44C8CDF5F03974A70F3>]>> Reviewer is a SFC, 1SG, or MSG or MSG (P) not filling CSM/SGM position (see AR 623-3, para 2-8b). rater's signature a4. The THRU date will be, 12 rated months (365 rated days) after the arrival or assignment date while performing the same duties under the same, rating officials during this rating period. DAPAM 623-3 is pretty specific with what is required for FAILS or PROFILES in the APFT section and for NO in the HT/WT section. +z#|sYgY0gS8gZW(|> FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior, Amazingly many evaluations arent reviewed for a correct Rated Soldier SSN. %PDF-1.6 % + Standard reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, "Change of Rater," or code 04, "Change of Duty," and so forth)will apply on these "Extended" reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. Their NCOER dont annotate the word PROFILE but should reflect either PASS, FAIL, or be left blank for no APFT, depending on their status with that alternate APFT. Ncoer Reason For Submission Codes. Ron Hite. they keep asking me why im still in or if I'm ok. # $ % 1 7 ^ b g h o p q + , - > @ U a He held 3 military occupational specialties (Field Artillery, Nuclear Weapons Tech, and Ammunition Ordnance). 0000002347 00000 n Retirement OER or NCOER requirements include the following: (1) All Soldiers will receive an OER or NCOER within 12 months before the first day of transition leave. I am in the reserves so everyone I have ever heard of that is getting medboarded or medboarded has taken 2-3 years. PEB and Disability Evaluation System Overview, Physical Evaluation Board System Overview. From what Im tracking you typically have to have an NCOER complete to clear your unit, but I cant sign it until 14 days prior (halfway through PCS leave) to my thru date. A key component of the current evaluation system is that rated Soldiers get to actually see and review their evaluation prior to its placement in the OMPF. Annual: prepared 12 months after the last issued NCOER. HVN0#Nq8fY !lV=@]JIZu 5OJ QJ ^J h8 Change of rater reports have 90 rated days or more AC; 120 rated days or more USAR and ARNG. Use the Subject drop-down menu in the main navigation bar to choose from a wide variety of topics including Army Awards, Army Counseling, Army Corrective Training, Army Inspections, Army Leadership, Women in the Army, Army Promotions, Army Training, and Military Justice. There's not enough peer input. None of these are acceptable in most situations. That should also be a change of rater. %%EOF Disclaimer: Though all content posted on AskTOP.net is reviewed by our qualified subject matter experts, you should not make decisions based solely on the information contained in this post. A NCOER was never completed for this time frame. (5) A rated Soldier may also receive an optional Extended Annual OER or NCOER under unique circumstances. Thanks for your service and your support. I also have absolutely no experience with a med board and I was in a airborne unit for 17 years. The FROM, date for these OERs or NCOERs will be the day after the THRU date of the previously completed OER or NCOER, with the rating period beginning the day the Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day, a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the Soldier assumes his or her new duty position). The pandemic didn't help things. The period covered on the, Extended Annual report will be longer than 1 calendar year, but the rating period or rated months (period covered. Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. Change of rater should be used. JavaScript is disabled. startxref if I have unrated time does that hurt my retirement. I'm real messed up. hbbd``b`>$C`201210"g0  REASON FOR SUBMISSION n. 606 0 obj <> endobj NAME OF RATER (Last, First, Middle Initial) JOHNSON, JOSHUA D. RANK SFC ORGANIZATION Uniontown Recruiting Center DUTY ASSIGNMENT Center Leader RATER'S EMAIL ADDRESS (.gov or .mil) joshua.d.johnson187.mil@mail.mil b. It will be followed successively by other types of. I'm on a dead man profile its all related to my EID blast in Iraq. Information on AskTOP is categorized into a number of subject areas for convenient browsing. Reviewers not writing and attaching letters of non-concurrence when the rater and senior rater box checks are inconsistent. Go to our comment section on the right sidebar. Getting ready to PCS, my Rater says my thru date is the report date from my orders. Are you supposed to receive quarterly counselings prior to your NCOER? Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. Can you name at least 3 Reason codes for non-rated time? What can I do? Can't find yours or want to contribute. When another type of report with an extended period covered is prepared, the standard reason code and reason for, submission will be used (see DA Pam 6233). DAPAM 623-3 provides a listing of the box check interpretations. What can I do if my NCOER is 75 days past its thru date? I have 18.5 years right now and every eval is exceptional. FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior rater potential box check (Part VII.d.) 611 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<1261714E461053080D48A61750C448C4><2E62CE6C84585345BE61DD794C2F663D>]/Index[606 11]/Info 605 0 R/Length 49/Prev 784385/Root 607 0 R/Size 617/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream He did. Standard, reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, Change of Rater, or code 04, Change of Duty, and so forth), will apply on these Extended reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the, "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. Also, as the regulation stands right now there should be at least 21 months of physical time between FROM and THRU dates to qualify for an extended annual. It may not display this or other websites correctly. United States Military Academy NCO NCO E-5 a A mandatory code 10 Extended Annual report will be prepared when any nonrated A a mandatory code 10 extended annual report will be School United States Military Academy Course Title NCO E-5 Type Notes Uploaded By DoctorUniverse2189 Pages 139 Ratings 100% (5) Bullets going over 2 lines. The standards outlined in AR 670-1 change over time to reflect changing . There needs to be an explanation and if needed the lack of CAC can work but Soldiers have the option of ink-signing and this option should be used when needed.