To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me (dalia@cgtrader.com) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. Hello, Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. Also the management is awkward on TS. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". This is the Tesla Model 3. Search Filter Free products only Discount Formats Free products only Reset filters Free Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. But based on the results, we see that it makes sense to show off the CG part on the homepage as well. That thing is just getting started ;-). taken offline. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. Hey there, its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. Turbosquid is the exact opposite. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. "google8":www.google.com, google10 Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". [13google->http://www.google.com/] - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? It was the most unpleasant experience. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. I like, CG Trader is ascent. They should make more effort to advertise. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] --GENERAL--. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. No overt similarites in armor designs, guns, vehicles, naming- nothing. Change Method. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. My friend didn't get any support. ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. (I forgot to put TS up). But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, TurboSquid is garbage. i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I removed all products from TS. What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. 3D Model jimmy choo. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. The designers make a deal with each other and negotiate a percentage on the sales. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. [/quote] What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Check out our picks of the best sites to download free 3D models for 3D printing, games & animation, graphic design, architecture, and more. I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. Marius knows this very well as he (whenever he can) communicates whit us. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. So the staff there tries to work For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. Money rules! (2034950) 3D TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. What's lacking? After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. Regards, Noise Treshold: I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. NoneCG will be up for it. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? No, I don't think it's just about SEO. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. [google7|http://www.google.com] I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. In this case the fastest support can not help. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. 5. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. There are currently no models in your cart. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS.